Russell Wants to know.

[Russell Kairouz]

Hello Final 2!! Congrats to you both on making it to the end... I must say my strategy for this season was pretty simple. I stuck with who I was with since the beginning which I'm pretty sure you both know was Lori. We had our alliance set in stone with Porsche and Jason. I was loyal to her 100% although I'm sure some may say that was my downfall it's just what I felt was right.

This brings me to my question for the both of you: Who do you feel was your biggest ally getting you this far?

Evel Dick: I respect you as a player and I hold no grudges towards you. However, one thing I would like to know is why do you feel you should win over Cassie? You belittled almost all of us through IMs and Personal messages and when something didn't go your way you got upset about it. Was this your strategy getting through the game? Another thing I would like to know is who were you aligned with throughout the game and how did they get you further?



Cassie: Congrats again on making Final 2 you also played a good game. But anyways onto my question. From what I gathered, you played a similar game this season then how you played from last season and still made the final 2. With you being a past winner why should I give YOU my vote over Evel Dick? (I'm just curious) also, What did you do differently this game??



My vote is completely up in the air! So Good Luck to you Both!!

["Evel Dick" Donato]

Oh hey there Russ. Alright question one is easy.. Dominic was my right hand man this season. While he wasn't around as much as he wanted this season because of his work.. I ALWAYS knew how he was voting, who he was nominating, and I kept him up to speed with all the latest game-related developments. As a side note we're friends on fb and txted each other throughout the season..(and I've been begging him to come visit me in NYC). Our bond runs deep.. we were a duo in season 9, I've played in his games, and I would've done pretty much anything to help him this season if he needed me, and I'm sure he would too. Someone like that I would never screw over. It's that simple. <3 you boo!

Okay now the tough ones.. I adore Cass and am thrilled I could help her get here, but that's my biggest problem with her game. While going UTR is a good strategy, eventually the time comes when you NEED to step up.. not just for your own sake, but for your allies who needed to rely on you. Had Parker and I (and Josh too to a certain extent), not won as many competitions as we did.. the out crowd would've been toast. So yeah I resented Cassandra for not pulling her weight. Also, because of the twist, she fast-forwarded through about a month of the game at least. And her redemption challenge to get back into the game was rock paper scissors.. while the rest of us were dealing with double evictions, nice/naughty transfers, the wrath of Britma, ect. It just seems kinda lame in my eyes to crown her the winner.. just my opinion.

In response to your point about the fights.. that's Big Brother. Blow ups are fun and part of the game, and usually come from a place of passion for the game and investment in it. I'd personally vote for someone with that kind of intense love for the game than someone who was blasé when things happened in the game. It was absolutely to get the people on my side fired up. When you're going to war and the odds are not stacked in your favor, you need passionate leaders not passive sheep. Rachel was ruthless and seemed like she was going to steamroll us out of the house. And that's not me to just roll over for someone. I'm a fighter and in this game you need to be. Did I go too far sometimes? You betcha. But when, for example, my best friend Dom gets blindsided out of the game, and I find out who was responsible.. I will absolutely call you out. It's a way to show I'm not a punk and I'm not going to let anybody play me like that and be O.K. with it. Hell no.

Now, whenever I thought it got too personal, dark, or mean-spirited, I absolutely apologized. This is just a game. However I hope that you can see it was coming from a competitive spirit and not ever meant to be malicious. I like everybody on the jury and have no beef with any of you now that it's all said and done.

["Evel Dick" Donato]

I was alligned with a lot of people at different stages of the game. Like I said in the beginning I worked with the Nice HoHs quite a bit during the twist. I definitely made deals with Lori, Jason and Drew during their early HoH reigns that if they showed me loyalty and gave me a key, I wouldn't put them on the block. Those three kind of became unofficial allies in the early stages and all three helped me stay safe through the twist.. so I owe them a lot. Porsche I owe the knowledge of the alliances with Rachel.. because until she told me about that group before she left, I had no idea who was with who. Parker tipped me off that week as to who they were evicting so I appreciated him doing that for someone who wasn't in Rachel's alliance.

["Evel Dick" Donato]

I definitely appreciated your help as well the week Josh was HoH. I was scared shitless and you convinced Josh I was cool. That was also when we created the Bros over Hoes alliance and Josh eventually separated from Rachel and confirmed what Porsche had already told me a few rounds ago. Of course I appreciated Josh and then later Parker for switching sides and joining me and the rest of the merry band of misfits. Lori, even after joining Rach, still worked across the battle lines and we helped each other as best we could, considering we were on polar opposite sides of the house. Parker was a beast of an ally once he was firmly in the out crowd camp, winning pivotal comps that helped our side turn the tide. And then Dom and Cass were amazing allies and their votes helped to ensure we sent the right people out.. and neither of them did anything to hurt me in the game. So long answer short, pretty much all of you had a hand in getting me through one stage or another of this game. And I always tried to make sure I returned the favor when it was in my power.

["Evel Dick" Donato]

I hope I hit all the points from your questions. I was sad when you flipped to the dark side with Lori, but I can still respect it as a game-move. Had you stuck with me.. who knows what could've been. Take care bud and you played a great game. Mad respect.

[Russell Kairouz]

Thank you!

[Cassandra Waldon]

Oct 10, 2012 20:05:02 GMT -6 Russell Kairouz said:

Hello Final 2!! Congrats to you both on making it to the end... I must say my strategy for this season was pretty simple. I stuck with who I was with since the beginning which I'm pretty sure you both know was Lori. We had our alliance set in stone with Porsche and Jason. I was loyal to her 100% although I'm sure some may say that was my downfall it's just what I felt was right.

This brings me to my question for the both of you: Who do you feel was your biggest ally getting you this far?

My biggest ally in getting me this far was Lori. We started off with a strong bond in the first week and once I came back, she went to the end of the earth to save me and help me get through each week. I was supposed to be the one evicted instead of Dominic, but with her help I was able to stay. We were both in similar positions by having friends and allies across all different angles and we'd always sit and compare notes. She'd tell me what lies she told people and what info she dropped to others.

However, I was well aware that I wasn't Lori's only ally. Like you said, it wasn't a real secret that you two were aligned and I know the list goes on and on. Once she only approached me for a final two deal after you were evicted, it confirmed my beliefs that Lori was playing the game hard. What Lori wanted ended up happening a lot of the time and she had her grip on nearly everyone. Someone that dominant isn't someone I wanted to face here in the end so as hard as it was, I had to make the decision to get her evicted. But even with that, I cannot deny the fact that she helped me get to the end immensely and I really don't know if I could have done it without her help.

Oct 10, 2012 20:05:02 GMT -6 Russell Kairouz said:

Cassie: Congrats again on making Final 2 you also played a good game. But anyways onto my question. From what I gathered, you played a similar game this season then how you played from last season and still made the final 2. With you being a past winner why should I give YOU my vote over Evel Dick? (I'm just curious) also, What did you do differently this game??

I think it's pretty accurate to say that I played a similar game to the one I did in season 11, and if anything that's why you should give me your vote. I played a winning game last season and ended up playing similarly. Most of the time the former winners are early boots and yes it happened this time. But you guys voted me back in. I know the vote was close and I fully don't know the circumstances of it, but I was personally shocked to see myself voted back since, well, I was a former winner. Still, I didn't expect to last that long. There were 10 people left when I returned (myself included) and 7 of them were from season 11. That's 6 people who know my game well and saw how it worked last time. Yet once Karen quit and Dominic was evicted, I was given a position of power. Half of the house just saved me from an eviction and the other half pulled me into an alliance. I was nominated four times after I came back and despite having the scarlet letter of being a previous winner, I survived all four of those evictions. There comes a certain amount of a threat being a former winner, but time and time again you guys voted to bring me back or keep me in.

As to why I deserve the win specifically over Dick, like you mentioned he can be rather volatile and explosive. This can be very offsetting and is quite an easy way to turn people against you. I know he says that part of it has to do with the spirit of the game, but there comes a time when it goes too far. This could be calling Drew a cunt and an emotionless player, for example. When you push it to the limit, not only do you run the risk of making yourself public enemy number one, but you also shut out options for whenever you get in trouble. I know that despite it all Dick made it to the final two, but it doesn't excuse it. Just because a potentially fatal move doesn't end up being fatal, that doesn't excuse it as a good move.

And for what I did differently in this game, I definitely made my options stronger, if that makes any sense. In season 11 I wasn't really on anyone's bad side, but I wasn't on anyone's good side in particular. I had a close bond with Jee, but that was really it. I was excluded from all the alliance boards (not even in one) and only knew so much about what fully was going on. This time, things were different. I stepped up my social game so I could gather more information and actually see the big picture this time. I was in an alliance board for once and a deal board and served as everyone's open ear. Lori would tell me about what lies she would tell people to stir the pot, Dick and Parker would complain to me about Rachel and Drew, Drew would complain to me about what mean things Dick said to him, etc. Even Rachel, someone I could never imagine myself working with, I turned things around with and was able to work with her to get Lori evicted. My approach to Recycled has always been to keep my options as open as possible, and because I stepped up my social game my options were a lot stronger and more tangible than they were in season 11. I know there were some people I didn't get to talk to as much, like yourself, but once Karen quit, I had a legitimate bond or alliance with almost every person in the final nine. Whereas according to Rachel, Dick's social game with her was nonexistent.

Hope that covers everything Russell!

["Evel Dick" Donato]

Just have to comment on some things I find misleading (the burden of going first prevents me from moulding my response as a direct refutation of what the other person said). While I did all the work for you to get here, I am certainly not going to do it again for your win.

1. That quote you took from Rachel about my social game being non-existent with her. When was that taken? Because Rachel knows that towards the end her and I had developed a great correspondence. I invited her into my HoH room in the final four and we talked about EVERYTHING. This in addition to a bunch of PMs.. I think Rachel would revise that quote you're using because while it was, at one point, certainly non-existent (because we were both trying to get each other out after everyone kept egging on our feud) it definitely would not be called that today. Blatant misinformation. I'll go to the jury for this one, raise your hand if you felt I had a social relationship with you in this game? Now think... can we say the same thing about Cassandra?? It's like laughable. Gurl, you forgot to vote and compete half the time. I doubt you can argue that you were more social than I was. Puh-leeze!! Ain't nobody buyin that one girlfriend. I was one of the most active players this season. You, sadly, were not.

2. Because I swore at Drew, you should win? That's the only thing that you did better than me in an entire summer long of game and strategy? Yes, if this was Who Swore The Least, then yes biznatch you'd win. How about name some big game moves you made? Oh, that's right it was laying low (not being active or knowing what's going on), and you were the mastermind behind Lori's backdoor. ARE YOU SERIOUS?? You did not do that. Rachel made that move in a position of power (something you have no idea about because you never had power in this game, ever! ) And if you think you can take credit for that one, you are delusional. We all suggested she take Lori out. It was common knowledge that Lori was Rachel's biggest competition.. so obviously she took out a threat when the opportunity presented itself. So please name something YOU did, not somebody else.. not I made a suggestion, blah blah blah. You can't right? Because you were the ultimate floater and you have nothing to give yourself credit for. Here I'll show you concrete things of what I did. I won HoH and broke up the alliance of Rachel and Drew. I made a deal with Rachel in the final four. I won PoV when I was on the block and saved myself. I won the final HoH and sent Parker (a favorite to win the whole season) out of this game. I created two alliances of people left out of Rachel's groups. I was a leader. I made moves. You were a follower. You did nothing besides follow orders.

3. This whole "I played both sides because Rachel's group saved me". No sweetheart. They evicted Dom, who was a threat and a better player than you. And correct me if I'm wrong, but you voted exactly how the out crowd told you to vote every eviction. How is that playing both sides and keeping your options open? You NEVER deviated from our side in a vote, which is the only time you had a say in anything.. so how exactly were you "in the middle". I mean, did we all watch the same season here? Lol unreal.

Cassandra, I seriously like you, and I respect your game. But own what you did (or didn't do) and don't try to spin it now that you're in the finale. It's too late for that. Be honest.. seriously. I'm fine if you beat me, fair and square but not because you are misconstruing history in your favor. We were all there. We know how you played. So don't try to twist it.. it doesn't look good.

[Cassandra Waldon]

1. So because you invited Rachel to your HoH Room, knowing the whole time the goal was to evict her, you had a great correspondence with her? If anything that's just a transparent correspondence. I'm pretty sure a smart and keen player like Rachel realized that too, especially as late as the final four. And to answer your question, that quote was taken at the final five so it's not all that misguided like you think it is.

As for not voting/competing, that has nothing to do with social game whatsoever so that point's mute. There was only one time I didn't vote on time and it was just a time where real life trumps ORG life. So as a penalty, I had to sit out of that HoH Competition and couldn't do anything about it. The only other Competition I didn't do was a Recycled history-based one that I knew I couldn't win and made the decision not to submit. That's two Competitions, which is the same number that you didn't compete in yourself.


2. Believe it or not, some people take personal attacks and the word cunt seriously. It's not a matter of who swore less, it's a matter of you taking your character Evel Dick to heart. It's a social game and there's a way to treat people. This doesn't include berating people and this doesn't include making call out threads to expose common knowledge when your back's against the wall. Those are easy ways to shoot yourself in the foot and shut people out, which is why your options were limited and you had to use Competitions to keep your game afloat.

As for Lori's boot, who was nominated that week?

I'm the first to admit that I was a floater because it's not a bad thing. Ever since Rachel Reilly got into the House, floater just became a baseless, meaningless derogatory term. Jun Song is regarded as one of the best BB winners and she played a floater's game. Floating can be very effective, as evidenced by making the final two in back to back seasons. My options were open and yours were limited. That's why your list of moves consists of Comp wins and a trivial deal you had no intention of sticking with. You were always higher up on the pecking order and had the bigger target on your back because of your explosive nature. That makes an excellent smokescreen and you're damn right I took advantage of it.


3. I didn't base my votes on what the Out Crowd wanted me to do because the whole alliance was sketchy as hell and it took me a while to gain your trust. Sure I smiled and nodded my head but come on. You guys tell me I'm going to be evicted and there's nothing I can do about it, and then try to take me in and act like none of it happened? I put a big question mark over that alliance for obvious reasons. I didn't blindly vote with you guys because I was never blindly aligned with you guys. You and Parker against Rachel and Drew, there was a clear us vs. them mentality. When you associated with them, it was all a sham. But after every eviction, I'd be hearing it from both ends, how sneaky Drew is and how much of an asshole you were being. Whenever you won a Competition, you'd talk about how you can't wait to finally get Rachel out and she'd talk about how you don't even talk to her and she wants to get you out (also taken at final five.) If Lori won the PoV at F5, you would've been the one going.

["Evel Dick" Donato]

*CASSANDRA

First of all, you're an idiot.. you have no idea what my true intentions were in the final four. So you can STFU on that one. I expected Rachel to win the final veto so I wanted to team up with her. The only reason I told you and Parker that I invited her into my room was to cover my tracks in case Rachel went and told you guys what we had been talking about, because we were still working out trust issues from people like you egging on our feud so you could float on by as we took each other out. Had I won the veto you bet I would've switched things up. Neither of you guys told me anything about final 2... it was always about getting to three, where I figured I would be next to go.

Second point. So.. you wanna take me down on the what if game? Wrong move biznatch because your list of what ifs is MUCH worse than mine, which apparently is that if Lori won the veto the week she went, it would've been me leaving, (which I have no idea how you can even know that, but okay, sure).

Here's your list, bitch:
What if there wasn't an outcast twist to bring your first-boot ass back into the game?
What if you picked paper instead of scissors in the redemption challenge?
What if my one vote went to Britney instead of you for who should come back?
What if Parker and I didn't win all those competitions and drag your ungrateful ass here to the end with us?
And the list goes on and on baby..

So don't even go there with me sweetheart. Also since you know soooooo much about my current relationships with Drew and Rachel, why don't you let them speak for themselves instead of quoting them and using them as a crutch to help your sad, pathetic case for why you (who did absolutely nothing all season) should beat me? Because in all reality I ended on good terms with Rach and Drew, but of course you are clueless about that. We should just call you Clueless Cassandra because you really are just talking out your ass at this point. It's really sad to watch.



I'm done here. *Fixes hair* *Laughs off Cassandra's desperate attempt at slander* *Smiles at the bitch's face* Next question?

[Cassandra Waldon]

Well when you talk all season long about how you can't stand Rachel and how she's bound to run out of lives soon and you tell Parker and I that you invited her to the HoH Room so she'll relax and feel safe but as soon as she loses the PoV Comp she's toast... I think your true intentions in the final four were clear. Especially because that's what ended up happening. And we did talk about final 2, more than once, so another mute point.

I'm not trying to take you down on a what if game, I'm just stating facts. If Lori won the Veto, she and I would be the two votes. If the vote splits, Rachel breaks the tie and you're done. That's how I can be certain of it, because it was discussed beforehand. But brush it off as a lie if you want, go ahead and ignore it all.

If you and Parker didn't win those Comps, then that means Rachel, Drew, Lori etc. would have. Since I didn't have all my eggs in one basket, it wouldn't have been hard to jump on board with them. That's how I set my game up, I always had something to fall back to other than making a call out thread or starting a fight. I'm not using Rachel and Drew as a crutch at all, I'm just stating facts regarding how my relationship with them in the game was in contrast to your relationship with them. I'll speak about it because it involves me and I'm here to defend my game. I've been stating facts and if you just wanna resort to posting insulting gifs and trying to make clueless Cassandra a moniker that sticks, be my guest. If anything you're just proving my point on how quick you are to shut people out and limit yourself.

["Evel Dick" Donato]

*BOWS DOWN TO CASSANDRA, THE MOST MASTERFUL PLAYER OF THE SEASON*

You're absolutely right.. what was I thinking winning competitions and making game moves?? I should've just been a spectator like you. Silly me, I thought we were here to play and not watch.

Well when you talk all season long about how you can't stand Rachel and how she's bound to run out of lives soon and you tell Parker and I that you invited her to the HoH Room so she'll relax and feel safe but as soon as she loses the PoV Comp she's toast... I think your true intentions in the final four were clear.

Sounds like you got mindfucked! ;D For such a masterful social player, perhaps you shouldn't take someone's words as gold. 100% had I won, Rachel would've been off the block, and she knows that. Got it?

Furthermore, since you were so offended on Rachel and Drew's behalves by my words... I invite them to address it in their questions and to see if we all really hate each other as much as Cassandra would like us to. Kay?

So in sum, bitch you're wrong. Get a clue next time before coming at me. You didn't play both sides because you evicted Rachel and her people every week regardless of whatever you were thinking about. Nobody knows or cares what your thoughts were about because your actions showed which side you were visibly on. Point blank. Just because you couldn't win jack-shit this season doesn't mean you were everyone's friend and ally. WRONG.

I hate people like you who try to punish good players in the end for playing the game, and playing it hard. The winner isn't who did the least.., who was the most UTR and if it is that's really sad, because that's a coward's game and a selfish way to play and fuck over your friends and allies. I played hard because I went to bat for the people I wanted to see go far in this game. Clearly I made a mistake helping your ungrateful ass get here..

So I suggest you stop because I did start nicely with you and if you want to make this jury segment a painful process for yourself keep going. Cuz I'm just getting started with you, sweet cheeks..

[Cassandra Waldon]

Actually, it sounds like you just retroactively changed your intentions to spite me because at this point nobody can prove anything to be true or false. It's just he said she said and won't get solved. colon dee.

Rachel and Drew or more than welcome to discuss it in their questions. Regardless of it all, your explosive nature and volatile behavior was a frequent topic of discussion and always in a negative light.

Playing both sides doesn't mean evicting people from both sides. It means being in good enough graces with everyone so that no matter which side is in power, your position in the game is secure. And that's exactly how it worked out. The only person I evicted from Rachel's side was Drew. I don't think it's fair to classify Lori to one side when she had ties all over the place. That's what makes her such a great player and why I felt the need to evict her.

Likewise, winning Comps is a mute point because of the number of them I threw. I was in a secure enough position where other people like yourself would be targeted instead of me. There was no need to show my cards so I chose not to.

I know it's easy for some people to get caught up into who made the most moves and who did the most, looking into quantity over quality. But believe it or not, sometimes less is more. It's how the Natalie White's and the Ian Terry's beat out the Russell Hantz's and the Dan Gheesling's. It doesn't matter how much you do if you don't do it well or consider all the possible consequences. And when your game consists of winning a Competition, making a painfully fake deal, throwing a tantrum, and call out threads that state the obvious (and get ignored), you're just setting yourself up for a failure and letting the walls close in around you.

["Evel Dick" Donato]

Okay Cassandra. I guess you are the expert on failure, seeing as you couldn't even avoid being THE FIRST BOOT!! Yes you are absolutely the Ian and Natalie White of the season.. lolololol!!! Get the fuck off your high horse. You didn't throw competitions you FAILED at competitions. You weren't always safe, you were LUCKY and left your game up to pure chance. Had you had any ability you could've won competitions like the HoH in the final four where you get no blood on your hands and are safe for the week. But I'm sure you were SOOOO secure you didn't need it right?

And to nip this whole "I kept my options open" load of crap in the butt..NEWSFLASH!! YA WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO WORKED ACROSS THE BATTLE LINES. I WORKED WITH LORI, I HAD TALKS WITH RUSSELL, AND WHETHER YOU ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT, I MADE A DEAL WITH RACHEL. SO GIVE US ALL A FUCKING BREAK!! YOUR POSTS ARE THE MOST DELUSIONAL, SELF-AGGRANDIZING LOADS OF CRAP I HAVE READ ALL SEASON!! You should get a job writing fiction, because the way you are rewriting history right now is beyond comprehension to me. You are seriously insulting all of our intelligences with these horrendous interpretations of how you were the next best thing to come along in Big Brother since sliced bread. You wanna know what I saw? A partially inactive floater who got carried by an alliance and taken to the end for her pathetic performance all season.

Get. A. Grip. Diva. You didn't play that great of a game.. AT ALL! You are faaaaar from this season's mastermind. God help us, you are a relentless, atrocious force in keeping up this ridiculous, self-congradulating act. Way to wake up in the last hour and go exorcist style on us.. Unreal. Freaking unreal. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills and I'm playing a different season right now. Because I saw you do LITERALLY NONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU ARE SO PROUD OF DOING. I'm done with you. Save it for the next question bitch. Maybe you should jump on Porsche's question instead of giving me ur best academy award winning performance of how great you were.. LOL. Is it too hard for you to answer? Prolly since you have nothing to say for yourself. Ouch. Must be a blow to your over inflated ego/Napoleon complex. Just pathetic.

[Cassandra Waldon]

There's no problem with being like Natalie White so I take that as a compliment if anything. And I definitely did throw Competitions, but if you want to adjust that fact to fit your schema, go ahead. I can't expect anything less from you.

I'm not rewriting history, I'm presenting facts. You say that I was partially inactive when we both didn't compete in the same number of Competitions. The times you went MIA didn't go unnoticed so perhaps you should get off of your high horse, not the other way around.

I'm the first to credit other people when they play a good game. The Jurors all played their own games that are great in different ways. But right here right now, it's just my game against your game. Like I said, you closed off your game to a great degree. You needed the numbers and with the amount of people you've alienated and cut off, you needed me. I on the other hand, didn't need you to get here. A few Comps go differently and there's still a good chance that I go far because I had the capabilities to realistically work with people like Drew. Of course I depended on different people at different times because we all need to depend on each other. However, I didn't have myself tied down to the Out Crowd because I shut out the other people left in the game.