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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 2:41:15 GMT -6
I wasn't nominated at that point. Therefore you wouldn't be able to use the Veto on me. I don't see what you're not understanding about that. Parker uses bronze veto. Lori puts you up. You want me to veto you with regular PoV. Get it? Now ENOUGH. SERIOUSLY. STOP. Except that was never discussed as part of the plan. The whole plan was for you to save Josh and that would've just left me on the block against someone else. I'm not going to go along with a plan that will leave me on the block and that's why I didn't help you. |
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 2:46:04 GMT -6
You knew with me Parker and Josh off the block you had your votes to stay. You only needed 3 dumb bitch.
SO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LIAR! ENOUGH!!!!
KEEP POSTING TO YOURSELF. I'M DONE. YOU RUINED MY NIGHT.
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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 3:03:01 GMT -6
Well I wasn't going to trust you guys that easily, especially after you guys told me that I was going to get evicted just one round prior. Obviously knowing that I'm going to keep my guard up. Like I said, I was very skeptical about my inclusion in the Out Crowd because of the circumstances the round before.
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 8:21:35 GMT -6
No you weren't. What a liar!
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Post by Porsche Briggs on Oct 12, 2012 9:57:28 GMT -6
I just have a few more quick questions before I decide. For Cassandra, Do you see your biggest move in the game as getting Lori backdoored? Was that plan yours or do you think without your input the result would have been the same with Lori leaving that week?
You were playing both sides so your strategy was to throw competitions to hide that. At any point at all did you take any control of anything that happened in the game or did you just depend on your deals with others to carry you to the end?
Also 1 final thing I really would like to know is, if you could hand pick anyone at all in this game to be sitting in f2 with you who would that have been?
Sorry I am asking you a few more things than Dick but I feel like I know more of his gameplay and strategy already
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 10:08:30 GMT -6
Okay I just need to go to the jury for this... Russell/Drew/Rachel/Lori.. did you guys feel as though you were safe if Cassandra won HoH? Just post an answer in your threads if you can. Because if you guys genuinely believed she wouldn't have put you up, then I will shut up. But I think this whole "I was safe no matter what and threw comps bc I was a genius mastermind who played both sides" is preposterous and a blatant LIE. You were with the out crowd 100% and for you to say otherwise is a complete disgrace. They only "saved you" to take out someone better in the form of Dom. Why did Lori nominate you if you were "with their side". Bitch please, everyone knew where you were in the game, and it was definitely not with that side of the house. I'm calling it now. LIAR!
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 10:20:08 GMT -6
She can only say this because she lost every single competition, so she can say I played both sides because I never had to make noms. But you voted out Drew with Parker. But you helped Parker and I win competitions. But you gave me and Parker all your coins in the final veto, and gave Rachel one. But you celebrated every time we won. But you came up with plots for how to take down the other side, yet never once did anything like that against myself or Parker. But you went on the block when the other side had power. Those are ACTIONS and those all dictated WHICH SIDE YOU WERE CLEARLY AND FIRMLY ON. God almighty you're such a coward and a liar. Own it. You were with us. Period. Everybody knew that.
Also if you intentionally threw comps, how come you couldn't win HoH in the final four? You didn't want immunity with no blood on your hands? You suck and you're trying to justify your HORRENDOUS performance in the competitions with some bullshit explanation, and I DON'T BUY IT!
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 10:44:20 GMT -6
Cassandra's arguments rely completely on intangibles, hyoptheticals, I would've I should've I thought about doings. You can't use any of that as a measure in Big Brother. People can say whatever they want to say in the end about theoretically what they would've done, but when it comes down to it, actions are the only true way of really seeing a person's intentions in the game. My arguments are based in ACTIONS. 3 HOHs, 1 POV. Please keep this in mind as you listen to Cassandra's stories about her "strategy". Because there's no way of validating anything that she's saying. She might as well promise you all ponies and rainbows and magical powers too while she's at it.
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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 11:22:42 GMT -6
I just have a few more quick questions before I decide. For Cassandra, Do you see your biggest move in the game as getting Lori backdoored? Was that plan yours or do you think without your input the result would have been the same with Lori leaving that week? You were playing both sides so your strategy was to throw competitions to hide that. At any point at all did you take any control of anything that happened in the game or did you just depend on your deals with others to carry you to the end? Also 1 final thing I really would like to know is, if you could hand pick anyone at all in this game to be sitting in f2 with you who would that have been? Sorry I am asking you a few more things than Dick but I feel like I know more of his gameplay and strategy already I know that Dick claims that he and Parker both talked to Rachel about it and it was common sense for Rachel to nominate Lori, but I didn't discuss it with anyone. When Lori and Russell were nominated at the F6 I was actually hoping to see Lori get evicted because I didn't know when our next shot would be, but Dick insisted that we're more capable of working with her or whatever. But the idea was already in my mind to try to get Lori out somehow so that's why I talked to Rachel about it. It's hard to say what would've happened without my input. When I talked to Rachel, she said that Dick hasn't talked to her yet and she didn't expect him to at all. But yet he claims that he talked her into it too, so after all it may have still happened. But part of why talking to Rachel was important for me was to cover myself. Dick and Parker were the nominees before the Veto and Lori was going to be the replacement nominee. Unless Lori won and saved one of them (how likely that was, I can't say), I have a spot in the final four guaranteed. If I didn't talk to Rachel, I may have very well been a nominee. Rachel's done it before and she wouldn't have been afraid to do it again. There were points that I attempted to take control by winning Competitions. Once we reached the final five and I had a goal to get Lori out, I knew it would help to win a Competition. However, most of the Comps were either about Recycled history (which I'm clueless about) or things that have happened this season. Since I was out of the game and trying to fight back in, I didn't have the same familiarity as everyone else with past events so this made winning Competitions very difficult. I came close in a few of them, but second place gets you nothing. Because of that, I had to depend on making deals with people, selling myself as a weak player and a non-threat, and basically do whatever it took. Would it have been nice to win some Comps? Obviously, but I can't say it was that much of a hindrance to my game because I'm still here in the final two. If I could pick someone to sit against in the final two, I'd say Drew. I thought about this one back in F8 and F7, actually, and just had to scope everyone out. It was a lot harder to pick someone to try to get to the end with because we just had a great set of players this season and there are realistic reasons to vote for any of the Jurors, really. I picked Drew for two reasons. One, because it was tangible and I had pretty good social ties to him. Two, while Drew was a good player, I don't know if it's a game that would necessarily lead to Jury votes. It's no secret that Dick hated Drew, and some of the first few Jurors are close to him. Drew was someone that I could realistically see myself getting to the final two with, and someone I could put up a fight with in the final vote. But I had to evict him because the votes were already there. My vote was meaningless because if I kept Drew, Dick would break the tie, send Drew out, and I'd just put a target on my back for going against the Out Crowd. It was just one of those instances where I had to go with flow. I hope that covers everything Porsche! Don't worry about asking me more questions, we were only in the game together for a short amount of time so I don't expect you to know much of my game. Thanks for caring to ask about it though  lemme know if you have any more questions or want some clarifications. |
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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 11:26:39 GMT -6
You were with the out crowd 100% and for you to say otherwise is a complete disgrace. "sorry Cassandra you're going to get evicted #suckstosuck nothing you can do bout it" vs. "girl can you believe how awful all those people are? Let's work together to take them down" (those awful people being the ones who kept me) I think I had my reasons to be suspicious about the Out Crowd. Why did Lori nominate you if you were "with their side". Because she knew me being against Josh would ensure he'd get evicted. Hence the 4-1 vote, with Parker being the expected vote to evict me. Obviously I would've rather have not been nominated, but it was Lori's decision. She thought carefully about it and it turned out that I trusted the right person that week because I stayed like she said I would. |
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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 11:30:10 GMT -6
Cassandra's arguments rely completely on intangibles, hyoptheticals, I would've I should've I thought about doings. You can't use any of that as a measure in Big Brother. People can say whatever they want to say in the end about theoretically what they would've done, but when it comes down to it, actions are the only true way of really seeing a person's intentions in the game. My arguments are based in ACTIONS. 3 HOHs, 1 POV. Please keep this in mind as you listen to Cassandra's stories about her "strategy". Because there's no way of validating anything that she's saying. She might as well promise you all ponies and rainbows and magical powers too while she's at it. Well a lot of your arguments actually rely on intangibles so (surprise) another mute point. And I hope you keep in mind the multiple lies I've caught Dick in. And the explosive emotional breakdowns that occurred after. |
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 12:12:56 GMT -6
Cassandra's arguments rely completely on intangibles, hyoptheticals, I would've I should've I thought about doings. You can't use any of that as a measure in Big Brother. People can say whatever they want to say in the end about theoretically what they would've done, but when it comes down to it, actions are the only true way of really seeing a person's intentions in the game. My arguments are based in ACTIONS. 3 HOHs, 1 POV. Please keep this in mind as you listen to Cassandra's stories about her "strategy". Because there's no way of validating anything that she's saying. She might as well promise you all ponies and rainbows and magical powers too while she's at it. Well a lot of your arguments actually rely on intangibles so (surprise) another mute point. And I hope you keep in mind the multiple lies I've caught Dick in. And the explosive emotional breakdowns that occurred after. What intangibles do I list? See this is what you do, you keep harping on the same points and overlook the tough questions. I'm not going to even validate your b/s any more with responses. Please let the other side respond and see if they fell for you "being in the middle". Because I doubt it. And finally you answer why you didn't win competitions where you get no blood on your hands, like the one I won in the final 4. You didn't know Recycled history? I didn't follow any of the seasons and I still got amazing scores. There's a little thing called the archives. I used them to help me win. You have no excuse other than laziness, which is a great summation of your gameplay. And the only "lies" you caught me in concerned me cautiously asking for help (after you instigated it by offering to help me win before it in a prior conversation, and then again encouraging me to do so in your little screenshot). If that made anyone look bad, it's you. I can't wait for Rachel, Drew, Lori and Russell to tell us where they really thought you stood in the game, so this one point upon which your entire defense has been coming from, can be laid to rest. And even if you did play both sides, how did that effect anything? It still had 0 impact on the game, and if anything makes Parker and myself look even better for getting to the final three with just the two of us against the house (since you refuse to take accountability for being fully with us). So thanks for the compliment! ;D |
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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 14:31:13 GMT -6
I don't respond to some of your claims because they're extremely baseless and just flat out wrong. There's no point because you're just speaking out of your ass, like when I supposedly offered to help you with the PoV. It never happened and you know it. Whether I encouraged you or not is irrelevant because ultimately I was no help to you. Not to mention the fact that you initiated the conversation in the first place, but you seem to be trying to ignore that fact.
My answer as to why I didn't win Competitions wasn't delayed at all. I said the exact same thing in my Opening Statement, but I guess it's easy for it to get lost in your sea of temper tantrums and personal attacks. Yes there are archives, but just like how you didn't do two Comps because you didn't have time, I didn't have the time to peruse through ten other seasons and get the answers in a 24 hour period. Apparently you didn't either because you gave up on the first HoH, didn't compete in the first PoV, and only got one right in the 10th PoV. Those aren't amazing scores and hmm, sounds like laziness. You're just trying to rewrite what happened and inflate your stats.
And playing both sides affected the fact that I always had an out. Your game was narrow. You had to win Competitions. My game was more broad. I still got here without winning Competitions because my relations with people were strong enough.
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Post by "Evel Dick" Donato on Oct 12, 2012 15:58:22 GMT -6
I'm lazy but I won 3 HoHs, voted at every eviction, never got disqualified, won a veto and I had great relations with everyone on the jury. YEAH OKAY. BAHAHAHA!! And once again thanks for the compliment that I managed to get here with only myself and Parker against the rest of the house after Josh left. You refuse to take ownership in the alliance so you can't have it both ways! Hey Parker Cassandra never was in the out crowd so does that mean I get your vote now?!? Yay!! And again thank you, because that only makes my getting to the final two even more amazing since it was 5 vs 2. Sweet!!
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Post by Cassandra Waldon on Oct 12, 2012 20:25:21 GMT -6
I'm lazy but I won 3 HoHs, voted at every eviction, never got disqualified, won a veto and I had great relations with everyone on the jury. YEAH OKAY. BAHAHAHA!! And once again thanks for the compliment that I managed to get here with only myself and Parker against the rest of the house after Josh left. You refuse to take ownership in the alliance so you can't have it both ways! Hey Parker Cassandra never was in the out crowd so does that mean I get your vote now?!? Yay!! And again thank you, because that only makes my getting to the final two even more amazing since it was 5 vs 2. Sweet!! You said I'm lazy for not competing in Comps when you failed to compete in just as many, if not more. So therefore you're lazy too by your own logic. I didn't try to have anything both ways. My options were open, yours were narrow. Yes you got to the end when the odds were somewhat against you, but can you really brag about that when you put yourself in that position? You didn't do anything to help your position by lashing out at people and generally being a grumpy and distasteful person. That's why you had to rely so much on Competitions to get here. |
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lemme know if you have any more questions or want some clarifications.